Motoz Tractionator Adventure

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Motoz Tractionator Adventure

Post by 1coolbanana » Tue Dec 13, 2016 7:45 am

Its been with great anticipation that people have been waiting for these tyres.
The have been hyped up to the max as the best, the strongest, the longest lasting, awesome on the road and off.
All the people in the know have been raving about these

Well heres the gosss......

The front

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The rear

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Ok, I had great aspirations for these, from all the hype they should be the holy grail of adventure tyre.
Lets see shall we...
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Re: Motoz Tractionator Adventure

Post by Waldorf » Tue Dec 13, 2016 12:45 pm

I was busting to get a set of these as Id previously had TKC, Mitas E10 on the bike and these TA's are supposed to be the shiz!
First trip out on the front was going to be a couple thousand k's, a few days out west Nyngan and Rabbit Trap way and surrounding areas.

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First impression was ok but, its very squirmy and likes to follow every imperfection on the tar.
Better check see if something wrong!
As I got further west it was feeling just as squirmy with no directional stability.
I dropped the pressures down a bit which was a slight improvement.

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Further out west towards the Cairn and Nyngen and a lot of deeper gravel and sandy bits it really isnt great and keeping me on my toes all the time.
It just becomes annoying as the front is just all over the place so dropped the pressures further down to about 22 psi.

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Ok, well there is reasonable improvement at 22 psi.
Its tracking a little better but its just not a comfortable tyre and Im finding it to be tiring.
Its also a very heavy and very hard tyre so had to mess with suspension a bit too.

Been on a couple more trips since and really, Im not a fan, it doesnt do anything well except last and is tough as.

Most recently another trip west and its been wet and muddy in the forests.
It really did not perform any better.

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This is after about 6000k's showing not a great deal of wear

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So to sum up the front tyre:

Pros:
Its tough
It wears well
Its black
Its round

Cons:
Really poor directional stability.
Ive had to re-balance it twice.
Noisy like Ive never heard any other tyre.
Its super heavy and messes with handling and suspension
I find it a bit tiring on the long haul because it doesnt like going straight ahead.
Needs to be run at low pressure to be "acceptable"

This tyre has been touted as something really special and flogged by many people in the know but I guess these would mostly be "paid endorsements".
Id say they were great too if I got them for free or getting benefits for saying so but I dont, I pay for them like most of us have to.
Dont get me wrong, paid endorsement is the name of the game in advertising and thats how the world goes around I guess.

But it doesnt do it for me at all. Im very disappointed

I generally ride a variety of dirt, long distance dirt road and forest touring I would consider it and this tyre that was dubbed as the holy grail really isnt much chop at all.
Sure it lasts but quantity over quality isnt all its cracked up to be.
Id prefer good for a short time than bad for a long time.

Personally I think a much better alrounder in this size is the Pirelli Scorpion Rally (not the tubeless version), Its just better in all scenario and much more stable.
Just a shame it doesnt come in tubeless.

Ultimately its just my 2 cents and hopefully this will help someone out there.

Will review the rear TA next.

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Re: Motoz Tractionator Adventure

Post by Wodger63 » Fri Dec 16, 2016 10:50 am

I have run the Adventure front and had a similar experience to you.
After discussions with the owner and designer of Motoz tyres, he suggested to take the tyre off the rim and reinstall in the reverse direction of rotation arrows.
I was pleasantly surprised the difference it made the front was now confidence inspiring with much better directional stability.
He also told me that he is aware that some people are experiencing stability issues and there on top of it with a new front tyre to be available in the new year.
I should be receiving one in February for testing and will post up my thoughts in due course.
Rick is determined to develop a tyre that suits large adventure bikes but as most of us can appreciate, some trial and error is involved in getting it right.
Like a lot of 1190 R owners, I have trashed my front wheel, got punctures and enjoyed fast wearing tyres, these are the issues Motoz are trying address with Adventure series tyre.
I can however recommend the Motoz Tractionator GPS front as a very capable all roads, dirt/gravel roads and light off road, which is very civilised on the H'way.
The GPS shares the same tough carcass as the Adventure but with a more road biased tread pattern similar to a Heidenau K60 Scout.

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Re: Motoz Tractionator Adventure

Post by 1coolbanana » Sat Dec 17, 2016 1:57 pm

Reversing a directional tyre is an interesting concept.
Interested to know how that goes :thumb:

Id try doing that to mine but I think it may be a bit too far gone now at 7k klms.
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Re: Motoz Tractionator Adventure

Post by Ozmac » Mon Dec 19, 2016 11:23 am

1coolbanan what did you think about the rear Motoz Tractionator tyre?

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Re: Motoz Tractionator Adventure

Post by 1coolbanana » Mon Dec 19, 2016 12:55 pm

G'day Ozmac
I have only managed 2000 k's on the rear TA so far and I was going to wait till I had some more k's on but since you asked :-) .
Ive only used it for this ride viewtopic.php?f=24&t=3584

Typical of this kind of stuff

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Like the front, its a very stiff and hard tyre being 4 ply with very deep tread and likes to be run at around the 22 psi mark.
Its extremely heavy and may mess with your suspension settings too.

For feel and grip, a TKC 80 or E09 (favourite tyre) for example, is much better (but TKC is fragile and they both melt off) but this thing is tough and looks like it will wear very slowly.
The TKC or E09 would be half worn out at 2000k's, the TA has virtually no wear.

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After 2k klms of 60/40 dirt/tar

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So to sum up the rear tyre:

Pros:
Its super tough
It wears very slowly
Reasonable grip on and off, what it lacks in grip it makes up for in wear.

Cons:
Noisy, but not horrendous.
Average in the dirt and same on tar.
Its super heavy and messes with handling and suspension a bit
Needs to be run at low pressure to be "acceptable" otherwise rides like a brick.

Ill keep this updated as it wears
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Re: Motoz Tractionator Adventure

Post by 1coolbanana » Sun Mar 12, 2017 3:20 pm

After 6000 klm's on the front, really, I just couldnt stand the crappy handling anymore and took it off and gave the tyre away.
It looked as if it had another 5-6k lm's left in it but is just horrible.

The rear, although it does nothing well, doesnt do anything very badly either.

This is at 3000 klm's and still has more than 10 mm of tread depth.
Looks like it will do another 3000 without issue which is the longest Ive ever had a tyre last.
To put this into perspective, an E09 get about 4000 klm's and so does a TKC 80.

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To be honest, I quite keen to see it wear out and change it for something else, oh bugger, wait a minute, I have another brand new one in the shed :(
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Re: Motoz Tractionator Adventure

Post by 1coolbanana » Tue May 23, 2017 2:08 pm

At 7400k's of general, loaded, 50/50 dirt/tar its still going and has some life left in it.
This tyre has been run at around 22 psi all it life and has not squared off.

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With about 7 mm of tread depth left and Ive not been kind to it.
Cant complain about the wear.
I never come close to this kind of wear on any rear tyre.

So I guess for that kind of wear and toughness its nearly worth living with.

Actually the more it wears the better it feels.
Still not particularly good at anything but for comparison, its better all round that an E07.
Shame it takes so long to feel ok.

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Re: Motoz Tractionator Adventure

Post by ozimick » Thu May 25, 2017 7:47 am

Hi Marc,
Nice report on these, I have just purchased a rear with some doubt as to whether or not I have done the right thing ... Do you know how the rear compares to a Dunlop 908 ?
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Re: Motoz Tractionator Adventure

Post by 1coolbanana » Thu May 25, 2017 8:35 am

Doesnt really compare as far as dirt traction goes.
If youre a fan of the 908 in the soft and technical stuff, I dont think youll be too impressed with the TA.
Better on the road but Im betting thats not what you bought it for :lol:

The 908 is a serious tyre, the TA is a compromise tyre.
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